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Is CA ‘Echo Boom’ financing tax flight to Fort Alamo?
By Wayne Lusvardi By now most Californians have heard the radio ads by Texas Gov. Rick Perry urging businesses to move to Texas. California Gov. Jerry Brown has inferred that the Texas governor is an annoying person. But Brown may have more to worry about than jobs-poaching governors. California currently is enjoying an “Echo Boom” in real estate, a boom following a crash. The money from the echo boom may be providing financial liquidity for small businesspersons, retirees and anyone with marketable properties in desirable locations finally to flee to Fort Alamo to escape the emerging flood of tax increases in California. The Echo Boom selectively has exploded in Southern California. So far this bubble mostly helps sellers, not buyers nor those property owners with upside down mortgages or property owners in loan default. If the Mortgage Bubble of a decade ago was a buyer’s bubble, the Echo Boom is a seller’s bubble. Market for “good” properties boomingThus far, the Echo Boom is occurring on any “good properties.” This means homes with little or no debt problems and vacant land in close-in locations with favorable near-term development potential. What is inflating the boom is a confluence of factors: * The federal government’s Zero Interest Rate Policy is producing low mortgage interest rates that are below the rate of money inflation (effectively free money). * Government suppression of foreclosed and upside down homes from reaching the open market has created a very limited supply of homes on the open market. * Asian buyers and investors are looking for tangible assets like real estate to buy rather than hold diluted Yuan (dollars). * The supply of vacant or effectively vacant land for development has been limited resulting in less supply of new homes on the market. * Entire subdivisions of homes are being taken off the sales market by large hedge funds buying up foreclosed homes for rental and eventually re-sale when the market recovers. * A real estate salesperson in San Marino –- an upscale suburb of Los Angeles -– told this writer that prices are the highest in 20 years, even surpassing the recent past Mortgage Bubble. Only 8 homes are listed for sale in San Marino and any home listed for sale typically gets ten or more offers. She said that brokers no longer know what the market value of any home is because the prices get bid up so high. And this boomlet is not just occurring in coastal cities with fewer foreclosures and no available land on which to build. A broker in the city of Corona — in the foreclosure zone of the Inland Empire — says the government’s suppression of foreclosures has resulted in the same type of price bubble for sellers with homes that are not saddled with excessive debt. He said those in foreclosure, or with upside down loans, are having their second mortgages forgiven and being given a new first loan with teaser interest rates. The hook in these loan reductions is that the new loans require a balloon payment — a payoff of the entire first loan in 3 to 5 years — with a refinanced loan. But the concentration of homes with upside down mortgages and defaulted loans in the Inland Empire is also driving buyers back to close in coastal locations. In coastal Orange County, it is reported that 2,926 new home escrows were opened last year. The Irvine Company reportedly sold 1,200 new homes last year. The Manhattan Institute has documented a “Great California Exodus” to other states such as Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon. Texas is the most popular state for California tax refugees. California’s foreclosure policies backfiringThe policy of President Barack Obama, Brown and California Attorney General Kamala Harris of suppressing home foreclosures from reaching the open market seems to be having unintended consequences. It has led to such a tight supply of homes and land that sellers are commanding prices that top those of the previous decade’s Mortgage Bubble. Although we won’t know for sure until data is available later, it appears that the Echo Boom may be aiding middle-class tax flight from California. IRS data migration numbers have been discontinued for the first time in 21 years. Apparently, the Obama administration does not want to provide embarrassing data on where Californians are moving. The San Antonio — Austin areas of Texas seem to be the most popular destination for tax flight, not only from California but every economically distressed Blue State in the United States. U-Haul trailer rental data indicate that San Antonio, Tex. is the most popular destination city for Californians moving out of state. San Antonio is the location of the famous Mission San Antonio — “The Alamo” — which became a fortress for Texas soldiers in a war with Mexico in 1835. San Antonio is now becoming a symbolic fortress for Californians in an interstate tax and business war. Thus far, Texas appears to be winning most of the battles thanks to California’s politically motivated foreclosure policies unintentionally financing tax and business flight out of state. No wonder Texans still shout: “remember the Alamo!”
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May 22, 2013


Californians may be running to Texas but I heard the prop taxes are 2.5 to 3.5% of the selling price. This seems very high to me.
The property taxes in Texas are higher, as you state. Property values generally lower, though.
And no state income taxes in Texas. No free lunches anywhere, and no place is perfect.
Locally, I see about 10% of the inventory for sale in my zip code compared to 2004-2006(Far East SF Bay). All bad, and I know of nobody who currently owns and who is in a position to “move up” that is looking to do so. That is what really ran up the last bubble. Many are upside down and can’t move even if they wanted to, and will try to wait the market out. No secret.
Just like those burned by the stock bubble implosion who have not re-entered the stock market, the many burned by the real estate market are and will continue to be hesistant to commit upward again. Never again.
It’s not that much of a stretch to compare The Barry and Jerry Show to a Dr. Mengele “experiment”: Stretch the pain as long as humanly possible, via extend-and-pretend.
While I’ll grant you that it is not their conscious intent to inflict prolonged pain, it will be the invariable result of their policies.
America will not experience a bona-fide recovery until Barry’s shown the door. As to California, I’ll reference a favorite Seinfeld episode: “Prognosis Negative”. I really can’t see how you can come to any other conclusion. The Dem super-majority will see to that.
Teddy Hood and his band of Merrie Men will say my conclusion is just so much “farting” (in the words of our juvenile Governor who, now that Dick Clark is dead, appears to be running for title of “America’s Oldest Teenager”) and point to the “miraculous” solving of our budget problem, but everyone with an IQ bigger that their shoe size knows these are merely accounting acrobatics that would make Rube Goldberg’s head spin.
Barry & Jerry just hope to keep the seams from unraveling while they are warming the exec seat. After they leave, it will be someone else’s problem and easily blamed on someone else. I can hear Gov Moonbeam now, “the budget was balanced when I left”. Of course, it was balanced on borrowed money and accounting tricks.
Voice of experience after having relocated an 82-year old from Southern California to San Antonio last year.
Property taxes may be higher but property values are 40% to 60% of what they are in California to compensate for the tax load. As a result home values are in line with incomes. In California very few can afford the home they live in based on their incomes.
Another thing: After paying property taxes and a smaller sales tax than in California, your total tax load is much less. Something else I found out about Texas real estate: because Texans are not nickel and aimed from every kind of tax conceivable they KNOW what their total tax burden is. TEST: how much of a percentage of your income or property value in California is your TOTAL tax load? Answer: you have to run some numbers to total up property taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, utility user taxes, special assessments for sewers, etc., new rain water tax in L.A. County, and on and on and on ad infinitum.
So Texans are more vigilant about property taxes than Californians. Also for most California communities the quality of public schools do not enhance surrounding property values. There is no sure tax capitalization for schools in most areas of California due to the poor performing schools.
Bon Voyage everyone. Hope you love it in Texas. Don’t let the door hit you…………….
Seesaw, you ignorant ____. (Good thing she won’t get that one either.)
Texas is just one entree on the menu of choices Californians are considering. Apparently you don’t like Texas. Fine. But there are others out there as well….49 in fact, plus the Vampire Empire on the banks of the Potomac…..and many are looking quite appealing vis-a-vis California.
Let me ask you: 3.5 million people….NET…. have waved bye-bye to California in the rear view mirror in the past 21 years, and you don’t think there’s a problem?
That’s NET losses.
Did I say NET?
I want to make sure you fully comprehend I am talking NET emigrants.
Got it?
Repeat after me: “….3.5 million NET emigrants…”.
Good. Just wanna make sure we compare apples to apples. I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
You may go anywhere you want to go, Jimmy. I may go anywhere I want to go too. I choose to stay in CA, and the more of you who leave, the more pleasant it will be for me. Enjoy, and don’t let the door hit you………………….
“and don’t let the door hit you…”
You’ve said that twice…..
AWW what the H am I doing trying to “debate” Seesaw!!!!!!!!!!!????? Truly I’m the idiot.
gotta go….
AWW what the H am I doing trying to “debate” Seesaw!!!!!!!!!!!????? Truly I’m the idiot.
gotta go….
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You will get less brain damage ramming your head into a brick wall than debating seesaw
jimmydeeoc says:
Seesaw, you ignorant ____. (Good thing she won’t get that one either.)
seesaw did you ever watch Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtain on “Weekend Update” in the 1970′s on Saturday Night Live???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs
Enjoy seesaw
wayne said it all.
californians keep voting for higher taxes. just that simple.
when the employers leave, it will tighten the economy.
look at riverside.