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	Comments on: The Battle of San Diego: Unions Go All Out for Status Quo &#8212; With Unlikely Ally	</title>
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		By: UptightTO		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/06/04/the-battle-of-san-diego-unions-go-all-out-for-status-quo-with-unlikely-ally/#comment-19552</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too bad the arument degenerated to name calling...because both arguments are folly.  The current system is not sustainable.  Period.  we&#039;re broke but havn&#039;t yet declared bankruptsy...So to Skippys point...yeah it&#039;s the law...shoudn&#039;t be but it is...While us in the private sector had our heads down making a living, raising families and saving for the future our public servants pulled on over on us and made it law...BUT..that doesn&#039;t mean laws can&#039;t be repealed or abrogated...and there is precedent,but again...even that may be folly...if there is no money to pay these fabulous benefits..

To the idea that those of us on the private side somehow made poor life choices and worked on the private side..BS...Some of us prefered to take risks and thought less of those who chose womb to the tomb security.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the arument degenerated to name calling&#8230;because both arguments are folly.  The current system is not sustainable.  Period.  we&#8217;re broke but havn&#8217;t yet declared bankruptsy&#8230;So to Skippys point&#8230;yeah it&#8217;s the law&#8230;shoudn&#8217;t be but it is&#8230;While us in the private sector had our heads down making a living, raising families and saving for the future our public servants pulled on over on us and made it law&#8230;BUT..that doesn&#8217;t mean laws can&#8217;t be repealed or abrogated&#8230;and there is precedent,but again&#8230;even that may be folly&#8230;if there is no money to pay these fabulous benefits..</p>
<p>To the idea that those of us on the private side somehow made poor life choices and worked on the private side..BS&#8230;Some of us prefered to take risks and thought less of those who chose womb to the tomb security.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/06/04/the-battle-of-san-diego-unions-go-all-out-for-status-quo-with-unlikely-ally/#comment-19551</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep. I know Rex. It&#039;s all a tax money grab. Skippy says that his dept&#039;s budget was $100,000,000. Of that $85,000,000 went to labor costs for risk free employment. Cops can beat up innocent housewifes, get found liable in a court of law and keep their jobs with no demotion in rank!!! HAH! :D

It&#039;s an fing farce!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I know Rex. It&#8217;s all a tax money grab. Skippy says that his dept&#8217;s budget was $100,000,000. Of that $85,000,000 went to labor costs for risk free employment. Cops can beat up innocent housewifes, get found liable in a court of law and keep their jobs with no demotion in rank!!! HAH! 😀</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an fing farce!!!</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/06/04/the-battle-of-san-diego-unions-go-all-out-for-status-quo-with-unlikely-ally/#comment-19550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beelz, GED cop job is very dangerous- the seem to fall out of their chairs/cars/high seats and become injured usually 12-18 months before they reitre ;)

As for their budgets-it is a joke, they do not have P&#038;L resposibility, because if they did they would be out of business - no one in LE or any other gov job has the brain power to make a profit. How else does a GED dork like Galinisky become CEO of the OC Sheriff&#039;s Dept.?? She couldn&#039;t manage a taco stand successfully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beelz, GED cop job is very dangerous- the seem to fall out of their chairs/cars/high seats and become injured usually 12-18 months before they reitre 😉</p>
<p>As for their budgets-it is a joke, they do not have P&amp;L resposibility, because if they did they would be out of business &#8211; no one in LE or any other gov job has the brain power to make a profit. How else does a GED dork like Galinisky become CEO of the OC Sheriff&#8217;s Dept.?? She couldn&#8217;t manage a taco stand successfully.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/06/04/the-battle-of-san-diego-unions-go-all-out-for-status-quo-with-unlikely-ally/#comment-19549</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the matter at hand.  Even by Chris Reed&#039;s low journalistic standards, this qualifies as a particularly whiny piece.  Get a grip, Chris!  Remember what those outstanding conservatives like Pete Wilson and Susan Golding did to the city of San Diego and then whine some more about what a bum rap conservatives get for driving that city, and our country, into a ditch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the matter at hand.  Even by Chris Reed&#8217;s low journalistic standards, this qualifies as a particularly whiny piece.  Get a grip, Chris!  Remember what those outstanding conservatives like Pete Wilson and Susan Golding did to the city of San Diego and then whine some more about what a bum rap conservatives get for driving that city, and our country, into a ditch.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/06/04/the-battle-of-san-diego-unions-go-all-out-for-status-quo-with-unlikely-ally/#comment-19548</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See, Beel, I knew you weren&#039;t capable of engaging in any form of meaningful discussion.  You&#039;re just too full of bitterness and jealousy over your failures in life, so you love to pontificate about how others should conduct themselves.

Just another bitter old man who never used the tools he had to do anything at all important or larger than yourself --- an internet warrior who makes specious claims about his abilities but can&#039;t do anything to make others believe his nonsense except other old and bitter men.

There are a lot of public agencies with $100 million budgets in California, and I&#039;m not very hard to find.  It matters not to me what you think, but I&#039;m glad to have smoked out your true self.  Too bad it&#039;s so inconsequential.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, Beel, I knew you weren&#8217;t capable of engaging in any form of meaningful discussion.  You&#8217;re just too full of bitterness and jealousy over your failures in life, so you love to pontificate about how others should conduct themselves.</p>
<p>Just another bitter old man who never used the tools he had to do anything at all important or larger than yourself &#8212; an internet warrior who makes specious claims about his abilities but can&#8217;t do anything to make others believe his nonsense except other old and bitter men.</p>
<p>There are a lot of public agencies with $100 million budgets in California, and I&#8217;m not very hard to find.  It matters not to me what you think, but I&#8217;m glad to have smoked out your true self.  Too bad it&#8217;s so inconsequential.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just for the sake of grins, why don’t you tell me what the appropriate level of salary would be in a private company for an executive level manager with responsibility over something near $100 million in annual budget?&quot;

You weren&#039;t a private company manager. You were a lowly public servant who signed up to serve society - not to fill your pockets, buddy. 

Besides, what department did you work for??? $100,000,000 is a stretch, eh? And were you the chief of the department. I suspect not. If you were a manager you were probably just a grunt manager who checked time sheets and not even with a fine toothed comb. heh. 

REAL private company managers actually work in a RISKY environment. If they screw up - they&#039;re OUT THE DOOR and in the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE. You goofballs can&#039;t be fired even for publicly lying and committing acts of blatant malfeasance - and if you question that see the Fullerton Police Department!!

One can be a complete moron and end up in the exec ranks of a common police department with an implied no-risk employment contract!!! heh. 

Cop managers are overpaid by at least 50%. And no, that&#039;s NOT an exaggeration!

&quot;I’m very confident it’s much higher than the $70k per year you’ve posted, and equally confident that it’s far higher than anything I ever made as a humble public servant, working long hours under dangerous circumstances on your behalf&quot;

&quot;Dangerous&quot;??? HAH! How is pushing a pen across a piece of paper and prematurely wearing out the cushion on your desk chair with an oversized butt &quot;dangerous&quot;??? HAH! :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just for the sake of grins, why don’t you tell me what the appropriate level of salary would be in a private company for an executive level manager with responsibility over something near $100 million in annual budget?&#8221;</p>
<p>You weren&#8217;t a private company manager. You were a lowly public servant who signed up to serve society &#8211; not to fill your pockets, buddy. </p>
<p>Besides, what department did you work for??? $100,000,000 is a stretch, eh? And were you the chief of the department. I suspect not. If you were a manager you were probably just a grunt manager who checked time sheets and not even with a fine toothed comb. heh. </p>
<p>REAL private company managers actually work in a RISKY environment. If they screw up &#8211; they&#8217;re OUT THE DOOR and in the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE. You goofballs can&#8217;t be fired even for publicly lying and committing acts of blatant malfeasance &#8211; and if you question that see the Fullerton Police Department!!</p>
<p>One can be a complete moron and end up in the exec ranks of a common police department with an implied no-risk employment contract!!! heh. </p>
<p>Cop managers are overpaid by at least 50%. And no, that&#8217;s NOT an exaggeration!</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m very confident it’s much higher than the $70k per year you’ve posted, and equally confident that it’s far higher than anything I ever made as a humble public servant, working long hours under dangerous circumstances on your behalf&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dangerous&#8221;??? HAH! How is pushing a pen across a piece of paper and prematurely wearing out the cushion on your desk chair with an oversized butt &#8220;dangerous&#8221;??? HAH! 😀</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know where you come up with some of your wild ideas, Beel.  Just for the sake of grins, why don&#039;t you tell me what the appropriate level of salary would be in a private company for an executive level manager with responsibility over something near $100 million in annual budget?

I&#039;m very confident it&#039;s much higher than the $70k per year you&#039;ve posted, and equally confident that it&#039;s far higher than anything I ever made as a humble public servant, working long hours under dangerous circumstances on your behalf.

You can thank me when the bile clears out of your throat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where you come up with some of your wild ideas, Beel.  Just for the sake of grins, why don&#8217;t you tell me what the appropriate level of salary would be in a private company for an executive level manager with responsibility over something near $100 million in annual budget?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very confident it&#8217;s much higher than the $70k per year you&#8217;ve posted, and equally confident that it&#8217;s far higher than anything I ever made as a humble public servant, working long hours under dangerous circumstances on your behalf.</p>
<p>You can thank me when the bile clears out of your throat.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beelzebub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;seesaw– pls do not confuse beezy with the facts. He hates that. It’s more fun for him to loathe those who made better life desicions than he did and wax angrily about end times&quot;

Seesaw, any idiot knows that management in public safety has much higher pay and the same 3%@50 retirement scam as the grunts do. 

So how does it benefit the taxpayers when management in public safety is allegedly not part of the union if they get union benefits plus more?

Teddy can&#039;t figure this out. He apparently needs me to tell him (again). 

I consider my comments a public service announcement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;seesaw– pls do not confuse beezy with the facts. He hates that. It’s more fun for him to loathe those who made better life desicions than he did and wax angrily about end times&#8221;</p>
<p>Seesaw, any idiot knows that management in public safety has much higher pay and the same 3%@50 retirement scam as the grunts do. </p>
<p>So how does it benefit the taxpayers when management in public safety is allegedly not part of the union if they get union benefits plus more?</p>
<p>Teddy can&#8217;t figure this out. He apparently needs me to tell him (again). </p>
<p>I consider my comments a public service announcement.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[seesaw-- pls do not confuse beezy with the facts. He hates that. It&#039;s more fun for him to loathe those who made better life desicions than he did and wax angrily about end times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seesaw&#8211; pls do not confuse beezy with the facts. He hates that. It&#8217;s more fun for him to loathe those who made better life desicions than he did and wax angrily about end times.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beelzebub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Beez, you seem to keep skipping around the fact that Skipper was not in a union&quot;

Makes no difference. Those contract are scammed in the same manner as union contracts. It&#039;s just more play for pay. Exactly by the same mechanism. You must really think we&#039;re stupid out here, seesaw! :) 

&quot;Not that whether he is or is not, should have any relevance, when you decide where to focus your hate-rants&quot;

You confuse &#039;rants&#039; with truth. 

Open your mind and let the truth seep in, seesaw!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Beez, you seem to keep skipping around the fact that Skipper was not in a union&#8221;</p>
<p>Makes no difference. Those contract are scammed in the same manner as union contracts. It&#8217;s just more play for pay. Exactly by the same mechanism. You must really think we&#8217;re stupid out here, seesaw! 🙂 </p>
<p>&#8220;Not that whether he is or is not, should have any relevance, when you decide where to focus your hate-rants&#8221;</p>
<p>You confuse &#8216;rants&#8217; with truth. </p>
<p>Open your mind and let the truth seep in, seesaw!</p>
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