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Are the police taking over CA?
May 18, 2012 By Katy Grimes Legislators have just involved themselves in professional sports. A bill was passed in the Assembly Thursday requiring all owners of all professional stadiums and sports arenas to post signs displaying the text message number and phone number to contact arena security in order to report a violent act.
Whatever, right? But the bill started out as something very different. AB 2464 by Assemblyman Mike Gatto, D-Silver Lake, originally would have required stadiums and arenas to develop and maintain a list of individuals to be excluded or ejected from all professional sports arenas if they had been involved in a “violent act” at an arena or stadium. Before being amended, the bill stated, “the banned persons list may include any person How creepy–especially in this era of very subjective ideas of “violence.” Daring to question a cop in many cases can bring about an arrest. And, the bill was far too broad in its inclusion of nearly every serious felony including a special section just on child and sexual offendser. Perhaps one of the most disturbing aspects of the bill was it would have allowed a list of the addresses of the banned persons to be published. The bill’s analysis said, “The banned Ironically, the Assembly just passed a bill yesterday that will allow public safety professionals to keep their property addresses hidden from the public. Both bills were sponsored by the California Police Chiefs Association, a group that is becoming more and more aggressive about increasing police authority, and lessening the rights of private citizens. Fortunately, AB 2464 was so bad, it was dramatically amended and became just a nuisance bill for arena and stadium owners, with the signage requirement. But, the reason I point this bill out is because I want people to see the kind of personal rights violations and liberty reducing legislation lawmakers think is a good idea. Here is the bill, in its original form, as well as the original legislative analysis pointing out the gross flaws and legal issues. Take the time to read the bill, and please leave me your comments. I have provided the link to all versions of the bill, as well as all of the analyses.
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May 23, 2013
Chief – What does a volunteer, unpaid EVOC instructor instruct? Don’t chip the paint on the ambulance? Wax on, Wax off?
Come on….
Typical of most in LE you blame the victim for what is taking place in our society SKdog. The Repugs had a hand in building the Prison Industrial Complex(PIC) as we know it today, but not without the help of the ruling Deamonrats, and certainly not without the money and power of the LE RAGWUS cult, which is the main beneficiary of the PIC.
Yes most of the citizens that are the result of the war on drugs, but the truth is LE has had a war on the private citizen since the late 1980′s. We have people locked up as violent felons in state prison for having a mutual combat fist-fight in high school. At every turn the LE siblings(unions and professional organizations) bring meaningless cases before the courts demanding that officers will die if they are not given these powers and the courts in most cases approve their phony cries to stave off certain death. The pleading by LE for one of the rulings doesn’t mean much but in their entirety it has turned any encounter with one of the costumed jewelry wearing men in blue into a matter of life or daeath for the unarmed citizen that dares to question the state paid sociopath that is trampling their rights as a citizen of the U.S.
Right now your band of LE kooks has a case before the courts asking for the power to taze, kick and punch pregnant women all because the 9th circuit court ruled that the police in a case in Seattle were not entitled to kick and taze a 9 month pregnant woman.
You run off on a tangent blaming the states lack of “mental health hospitals” for the bad behavior of the armed LE simpletons running amuck on the streets of America. The truth is your LE cabal could very easily enfore the laws against citizens you are imprisoning the same way you enforce the laws against illegal aliens, but there is money and power in locking up citizens, there is no money in arresting and helping to deport illegal aliens, isn’t that right SKdog?
What you craved when you first put on that hyper-boyscout uniform was your first encounter with a citizen just to watch them kneel before you. If they even had a inkling of disrespect for you they were going to pay anyway you desired.
Your “tough on crime” mantra was put forth by your LE
You’re a real intellectual there skdog; sorry but I won’t take the bait this time. You just keep on thinking and saying whatever and denigrating what I did as a vol. FF/EMT. I have nothing to prove to the likes of you. I will just bide my time until my escape from CA and people who think like you. I will think of you though every time I pass CA union thug with a badge and a gun. Have a nice life.
Once more you try to support your foolish argument with ridiculous claims disguised as “facts,” Donkey. Please provide even one example of someone who has been sentenced to state prison in California for nothing more than a high school, mutual combat fist fight. There’s simply no such example.
There was a serious and continuing trend of increasing violence in our society that corresponded with the end of the second World War and continued through the “crack epidemic” of the 1980′s and early 1990′s. Politicians of all stripes were elected to represent the fears and concerns of their constituents, leading to ever harsher sentencing laws throughout the country. Remember the argument over Mandatory Minimum sentences?
In California, one of the biggest complaints about Gov. Brown in the 1970′s was that he didn’t support the death penalty. That’s also the primary reason Rose Bird was not maintained on the California Supreme Court by voters. When people get scared they want their fears addressed by the politicians, courts, and police.
The Three-Strikes law was passed in California by initiative, not by a reasoned discussion in any legislative body. Efforts to limit its application to violent crimes, support by me and many other law enforcement and prosecution professionals, were repeatedly rebuffed by politicians and the electorate. Now that people are beginning to see the cost of such punitive measures, including the death penalty, we’ll see if they’re ready to dial things back to a more reasonable level.
Many observers believe the large reductions in the overall crime rate we’ve experienced over the last decade or so have been the direct result of the same punitive policies you continually whine about. I suppose we’ll get to see a large-scale sociology experiment in the near future and find out if that thesis is correct. Personally, I’m more inclined to believe the decline in overall crime rates is more related to the shrinking demographics reflected in the 14-24 year old male cohort, as well as the particular impact on that cohort in the minority community of greater access to family planning services. If you don’t understand that, you should read Freakonomics on the subject.
As to you chief, thank you for your kind words of departure. While I would be the last to denigrate your volunteer services, you should know better than to claim they’ve provided you with the knowledge and insight of public safety service organization and management in major urban and metropolitan regions. Good luck in finding your own utopia out in the great desert of fly-over country.
What you fail to acknowledge is that the LE feeder unions were right out in front of every politician that was put in place to vote for caging citizens on every trumpted up charge your boys could come up with SKdog.
As for the three strikes farce, it was the police that funded its passage.
So the facts are your LE cabal supplied the voice and cash to build the PIC, by passing all the props, laws, and rules that allowed it to grow. And I am not even including your filthy RAGWUS honors when it comes to your pay, perks, benefits and perks.
Did you realize, Donkey, that the same “prison industrial complex” you regularly wail about is the driving force behind the political effort underway to criminalize and imprison undocumented aliens? ALEC, the same people who brought us the Arizona anti-immigrant law, is supported by the largest private prison companies in the world.
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SKdog, you have it wrong. Illegal aliens are already criminals by virtue of breaking the nations long standing immigration laws to usurp the jobs that American citizens have always done.
The PIC, to which you made claim, is a creation of the LE RAGWUS. It has conceived the current “Gulag” to which all Americans should be ashamed.
Look at the LE leaders in LA seeking to allow illegals to drive without a license without any conseqences. Your LE cabal is the biggest problem this state has; persuing one set of laws for your group of LE insiders, then looking the give illegals special rights and immunities, then expecting regular citizens to submit to your every whim. Look in the mirrior SKdog, you are nothing but a thieving RAGWUS feeder hiding in a gated community.
They are cowards too, donk. Most will stay in their cars and wait for backup before confronting a suspect who’s bigger than they are. A neighbor down the street told me that she called the cops about noises in her backyard one night and the cop refused to go back there by himself to check it out because it was too risky. heh.
If it is a non-emergency call such as “noises in my backyard,” the very first thing we teach new officers is to wait for their cover unit to arrive so they can properly secure the area. To do otherwise without necessity is just the kind of John Wayne foolishness that gets people injured or killed unnecessarily.
Every time you post about police tactics or training, you look like an ignorant and bitter old fool, Beel. I suspect that is an accurate assessment.