Comments on: Legislature works to limit free speech of corporations https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/ Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:56:59 +0000 hourly 1 By: LGMike https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18031 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:27:47 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18031 Another diversion by a couple of Liberal politicians on behalf of the current administration. Ask them if they define the Democratic or Republican National committees the same as a private Corporation. Do they define “unions” as a Corporation. Look at how much “buying” goes on during election cycles by just these 3 organizations in both local, state and federal offices, school boards, water districts, etc. The point of this article is the US Supreme Court correctly ruled on the Constitutionality of free speech. The people have the right and duty to address any perceived grievance by legal means under the rule of law. Politicians should reflect actual majority opinion of the people they represent, not just decide on their own what is best.

]]> By: Rex The Wonder Dog! https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18030 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:44:38 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18030 Teddy/Queeg, I just busted you 🙂

queeg says:
May 9, 2012 at 10:37 pm

Corporations good. Capitalism good. American great!

Ted Steele, Associate Prof. says:
May 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm

]]> By: Rex The Wonder Dog! https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18029 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:11:57 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18029 Teddy/Queeg, I just busted you 🙂

queeg says:
May 9, 2012 at 10:37 pm

Corporations good. Capitalism good. American great!

Ted Steele, Associate Prof. says:
May 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm

]]> By: Rex The Wonder Dog! https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18028 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:10:25 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18028 Teddy Steals= Queeg 🙂

]]> By: Beelzebub https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18027 Thu, 10 May 2012 16:15:32 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18027 Frick :)]]> Frack ♥ Frick 🙂

]]> By: queeg https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18026 Thu, 10 May 2012 15:35:31 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18026 When Teddy speaks….people listen!!!

]]> By: Rex The Wonder Dog! https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18025 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:12:36 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18025 Wow, Ted is using Google again.

]]> By: Ted Steele, Associate Prof. https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18024 Thu, 10 May 2012 05:39:52 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18024 apologies to JPS–
The basic premise underlying the Court’s ruling is its iteration, and constant reiteration, of the proposition that the First Amendment bars regulatory distinctions based on a speaker’s identity, including its “identity” as a corporation. While that glittering generality has rhetorical appeal, it is not a correct statement of the law. Nor does it tell us when a corporation may engage in electioneering that some of its shareholders oppose. It does not even resolve the specific question whether Citizens United maybe required to finance some of its messages with the money in its PAC. The conceit that corporations must be treated identically to natural persons in the political sphere is not only inaccurate but also inadequate to justify the Court’s disposition of this case.

Fellow trolls– do your own work and at least read the whole opinion before you spaz out here like you know something……often, you don’t.

The Ted

]]> By: queeg https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18023 Thu, 10 May 2012 05:37:36 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18023 Corporations good. Capitalism good. American great!

]]> By: Beelzebub https://calwatchdog.com/2012/05/09/ca-lawmakers-push-to-overturn-scotus-decision/#comment-18022 Thu, 10 May 2012 05:07:52 +0000 http://www.calwatchdog.com/?p=28384#comment-18022 “Evil corporations employ millions of people”

Yeah, that’s true. But that should not give them the right to commit criminal acts of drug money laudering, robosigning mortgages and financial fraud which resulted in millions of people LOSING their jobs, homes and life savings – and not go to prison. We are supposed to be a civilized society afterall. In civilized societies bad people who hurt others are supposed to get punished. But in America bribes and payoffs protect shield them from punishment. Sorry, that’s clearly wrong.

“Without free speech, corporations have little or no say over the government and unions which already have a leg-up on them”

They can have all the free speech they want. They just can’t bribe politicians to get special favors and illegal privileges that are prohibited for the rest of us. As I said, if a cop pulled me over for speeding and I handed him a Franklin for the special privilege of avoiding the fine – my bail would be $30,000. Yet a corporate pig can bribe a pol and have his cake and eat it too. If I have to follow the law – so should they. That is the basic core of decency and civilization.

” And the free market pendulum always swings, and eventually corrects itself, as long as government stays out of the way”

That’s a complete myth. One reason Wall Street was able to get away with all the financial fraud and criminality was because all the regulators who were supposed to be watching over them were intentionally asleep at the wheel. And that’s an undeniable fact. The free market does not work when crooks can commit acts of fraud and swindle people out of billions of dollars – all hidden from public view. By the time you figure out what’s going down – all the damage has occurred. Come on Katy. You oughta know that.

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