Windmill-Gate Scandal Storms Into CA

OCT. 13, 2011

By WAYNE LUSVARDI

Electricity: the peril the wind sings to in the wires on a gray day.

– novelist Janet Frame

Windmill-Gate is blowing across the trendy new resource of wind-generated electricity. New new studies look at “cycling”: the ramping up and down of gas power plants to adjust to the variability of wind energy coming into the electric grid. The studies show cycling causes conventional power plants to emit significantly more air pollution than if wind farms were not connected to the grid.

Even in Holland, home of windmills for centuries, the Dutch government is reported to have shifted to a new systemic model of energy sustainability. The new model considers how much pollution is generated when wind power interacts with conventional gas-power plants. They have discarded the “Old Model” of presuming that wind-power plants have no effects on the efficiency and emissions of conventional power plants.

Wind Power Lowers “Miles Per Gallon” of Gas-Power Plants

It is self-evident that wind turbines don’t directly emit any carbon dioxide or other pollution in to the air.  But when wind, coal and natural gas power interact in the electricity grid, is wind still a clean source of energy?  A Dutch study, an American study in the State of Colorado and a study of wind farm data in Ireland have all found this: Connecting wind power to the grid produces more carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions because backup conventional power plants have to ramp up and down — called cycling — to adjust to the high variability of wind power when the wind doesn’t blow, or blows at variable speeds.

This is analogous to the gas mileage you get on your car.  When driving on the uncongested freeway, you can get, say, 30 miles per gallon of gasoline.  But when driving in stop-and-go street traffic, your mileage may drop to 10 miles per gallon, depending on traffic conditions and if drivers race between traffic signals.  This is because gasoline engines burn more fuel and emit more pollution when constantly accelerating and decelerating than when running at a constant speed.

When the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine, renewable energy requires the backup capacity of conventional power plants. Wind energy can never be relied upon for what is called “base load” power because it is too unreliable.

However, renewable power has “must take” status for 33 percent of power demands, under state legislation in California signed last April by Gov. Jerry Brown.  When we are talking about “cycling” of power plants up and down, we mainly refer to gas-fired power plants. That’s because coal plants can’t be ramped up fast and nuclear power plants cannot be ramped up or down at all to accommodate the variation of wind.

In any event, nuclear power plants do not produce C02 and have inexhaustible fuel.  California mainly shifted to natural gas-powered plants after the federal Environmental Protection Agency mandated the mothballing of old, polluting fossil-fuel power plants, which resulted in the California electricity crisis of 2000-01.

Dutch Study 

The 2009 Dutch pilot study is, “Electricity in the Netherlands: Wind Turbines Increase Fossil Fuel Consumption and C02 Emission,” updated in October 2011 by C. le Pair in collaboration with J. K. de Groot, formerly with the Dutch Technology Institute (STW) and Dutch Shell, respectively. It  concluded: “The wind projects do not fulfill ‘sustainable’ objectives. They cost more fuel than they save and they cause no CO2 saving, in the contrary they increase our environmental ‘foot print’.”

De Groot and le Pair reported that a 300-megawatt wind farm near Schiphol, Netherlands would have emitted an extra 117.9 tons of C02 on one day alone, August 28, 2011.

The authors of the study also found that wind-power turbines have an estimated physical life of about 15 years, instead of the 30-year life claimed by wind energy advocates.

The Dutch study pointed out that fuel efficiency and C02 emissions from power plants vary when they interact with wind power, depending on the following factors:

  1. Whether the  “Old Model” of assuming wind power plants have no effects on the performance or emissions of gas fired power plants, or the “Current Model” now used by the Dutch that considers “cycling.”
  2. Whether the wind plant has a 15-year or 30-year lifetime.
  3. Whether a typical 500-megawatt capacity power plant is producing 100, 200 or 300 megawatts on a normal day.
  4. What type of power plant is needed to backup variable wind power: a Combined Cycle Gas Turbine or an Open Cycle Gas Turbine.
Turbine Type

Efficiency

Ramping Capability

Combined Cycle Gas Turbine

60 %

Not suitable for peaking

Open Cycle Gas Turbine
(jet engine)

32 %

Within minutes – peaking capability

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As shown above, when wind energy comes into the grid, it must be backed up by less efficient gas power plants that can be started up fast due to the vacillations of wind power.  The authors of the Dutch study cite the CEO of The Gas Union, the main gas supplier in the Netherlands, who explained why new gas pipelines had to be constructed and the price of electricity thus had to be increased; “It is because all that wind takes up so much gas.”

The results of the Dutch study are summarized in the excerpted table below:

Table 4: Fuel and C02 Emission Saving for a 500 Megawatt modern gas fired plant with design capacity of 500 MW together with a wind project — V — near Schiphol, Netherlands on a normal windy day.

V

100 Megawatt Wind

200 Megawatt Wind

300 Megawatt Wind

Old  Model

4.2%

8.3%

12.5%

Quasi-Stationary – Current Model

3.5%

7.1%

10.7%

Including ‘Cycling’

1.4%

2.9%

4.4%

Ibid. Including Lifetime 30 years

1.0%

2.0%

3.1%

Same Lifetime 15 years

0.6%

1.2%

1.9%

Same (30 yr.) + Open Cycle Gas Turbine

-0.3%

-0.5%

-1.0%

Same (15 yr.) + Open Cycle Gas Turbine

-0.8%

-1.4%

-2.3%

It is clear. The alleged savings provided by wind developments that could cover 20%, 40% or 60% of the electricity demand during favourable winds are not just negligible, they are even negative, when the most relevant factors are taken into account. As we remarked before, there is substantial evidence that a lifetime of 15 year is not an exaggeration. We mentioned the park that had to be renewed after 12 year. That was an on shore park. The parks to be constructed off shore operate under more difficult circumstances. Therefore we conclude: NON-SUSTAINABLE. The wind projects do not fulfill ‘sustainable’ objectives. They cost more fuel than they save and they cause no CO2saving, in the contrary they increase our environmental ‘foot print’.A decision to invest thousands of millions Euros in the construction of wind developments ‘to save fossil fuel and to reduce CO2 emission’ is irresponsible. There are no savings, THERE IS LOSS!We do not consider it likely that more knowledge of the factors influencing the present outcomes would change our results appreciably.
Source: C. le Pair, Electricity in the Netherlands: Wind Turbines Increase Fossil Fuel Consumption and C02 Emission, 2009.

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Emitting More Fuel

The percentages in the green print area indicate energy and pollution savings from wind power interacting with gas power plants.

The percentages in the red print area indicate that gas power plants with a 15-year physical life are burning more fuel and thus emitting more pollutants when they have to “cycle” to accommodate the variability of wind power coming into the grid.

Consider the last line of the green print. When cycling is factored into the calculations and a 30-year life is presumed for wind turbines, according to wind energy proponents, the energy and pollution savings are slight (0.6 to 1.9 percent).  At best, apparently, we’re spending billions of dollars on wind-farm subsidies for marginal improvements in fuel savings.

Next, consider the red print. At worst, when cycling is factored into the calculations and assuming only a 15-year life for wind turbines based on real-world data, the energy savings turn into negative percentages.  In other words, wind power causes gas-fired power plants to burn more fuel and emit more pollution.

Bentek Study — Colorado and Texas

Most of the claims of the advantages of wind power come from computer models.  An exception is the April 2011 study by Bentek Energy, a firm that does energy analysis, ironically headquartered in Evergreen, Colo. The Bentek study only became available due to the Freedom of Information Act.

The Bentek study, “How Less Became More: Wind, Power and Unintended Consequences in the Colorado Energy Market,” was prepared for the Independent Petroleum Association of Mountain States. It used actual emission data from power plants in Texas and Colorado. Bentek’s conclusion: “Wind has no visible influence on fuel consumption for electricity production and the emission of C02 in the atmosphere is not reduced.”

Bentek also found that four of five coal-fired power plants that are now forced to cycle their power output are located near Denver, adding to the urban air problem near major urban centers.

Bentek additionally concluded that adding more than 5 to 10 percent of wind energy to the electric grid “will significantly add to emissions unless more flexible natural gas generation is utilized” — which is less efficient and burns relatively more fuel and generates more emissions.

In April 2011, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law SBX1 2, by state Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, to increase the percentage of green power in the state from 20 to 33 percent.

Ireland Study 

Dr. Fred Udo posted an Internet article on his Web page that was termed by colleagues, “The Smoking Gun of the Windmill Fraud.” Udo showed that more wind power coming into the grid in Ireland resulted in increased C02 emissions, along with small energy savings. Reviewing Udo’s work, C. le Pair has commented that “there is evidence that the overall C02 emission in Ireland can be [approximately] 20 percent higher than the emission calculated in the EirGrid tables….”

Dr. Udo’s article set off rebuttals on many wind industry websites.

Whatever the merits or pitfalls of Udo’s article may be, the science behind the assertion that variable wind power increases fuel consumption and thus pollution requires no more than high-school-level science and common sense.  The wind energy industry’s counter-assertion, that “cycling” gas-fired plants are not wasteful and do not produce more pollution, defies common sense experience that everyone has with gas mileage for their own cars.

The wind industry’s assertion of a 30-year life for wind turbines isn’t borne out in the California experience, where many ugly wind farms have been abandoned in place after the 15-year tax depreciation schedule was exhausted.

Consulting energy engineer Willem Post has conducted a thorough online analysis of all the above studies and has concluded that it would be better to invest in energy-efficiency measures than in unproven and costly renewable energy.

Windmill-Gate?

The above described studies raise a question: Can environmental protection laws now be used to bring legal action to shut down California’s frenzy to comply with AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006, by erecting massive wind farms in the desert, resulting in the destruction of the visual landscape as well as thousands of innocent birds?

Gov. Jerry Brown recently signed new legislation — SB 16, SB 267 and AB X1-13 — to streamline the permit process for large-scale renewable energy projects.

Why are we spending so much in welfare subsidies for unproven wind energy technologies? Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics at Stanford University states in his new book,  “Powering the Future”:

“Unfortunately, all forms of solar energy, but especially the wind, are capricious. After all, they amount to harnessing the weather. This is not a small problem but an enormous one.  Energy is most valuable when it is dear, and people simply won’t tolerate energy that blacks out at random moments.  Exactly what fraction of the time — and for what reasons — the world’s wind farms stand idle is politically sensitive, but the amount of energy they actually produce averages about 25 percent of their full capacity very generally.  Right now it’s possible to paper over this problem by having natural gas peaking plants standing by ready to power up whenever the wind stops blowing — as it does from time to time.  However, this strategy won’t work when amounts of wind or solar power become large, because correspondingly large backup generating capacity then will become too expensive. The people capitalizing this capacity don’t like getting stuck with interest payments on machinery and gas tanks that generate no revenue on account of being idle most of the time, and they’ll eventually just stop investing.”

Californians may regret the day that Gov. Jerry Brown signed SBX1 2.

Increasing Pollution

In what energy journalist Robert Bryce calls “America’s Worst Wind Energy Project,” the federal government is in the process of approving loan guarantees for General Electric’s $1.9 billion Shepherd’s Flat solar farm project in Oregon that will generate 845 megawatts of electricity for customers in California.

The Shepherd’s Flat Wind Project is to replace the planned removal of four hydroelectric dams along the Klamath River in Oregon that generate 155 megawatts of power.  The problem is that hydroelectric power can be ramped up fast to back up wind power plants.  A new gas power plant will now have to be built to back up the new wind farm, but it will have to be a less efficient peaker plant.

While the federal government and the State of California are busy removing hydroelectric dams, physicist Laughlin, in “Powering the Future,” informs us that the amount of hydro-pump energy storage required to store the world’s daily electrical surge is equal to only eight times the volume of water in Lake Mead on the Colorado River.  And hydroelectric power is a clean source of energy.

The de facto energy policy of both the federal government and California appears to be to remove clean hydroelectric power plants and replace them with gas-fired peaker-power plants that will be less efficient and emit more pollution.

Will the issue of increased emissions and energy wasted by conventional gas power plants caused by wind farms become a scandal?  No one knows.

But to paraphrase Bob Dylan, “The answer, my friend, is blowing in Windmill-Gate.”

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Comments(6)
  1. Rogue Elephant says:

    Wayne? Why do you hate the planet? What did it ever do to you?

    Plus, this about green jobs! So what if the jobs are in China or Mexico? Al Gore, Silicon Valley tech firms, and Wall Street have hungry mouths to feed!

  2. Bill-San Jose says:

    How many windmills have to be used to make the Altamont Pass profitable? The answer is none because it will never show a profit.

    Someone do the background on how many different companies went in there and used investor funds to fail.

    There are new ones going up as we speak to save the birds! I don’t care as long as taxpayers’ dollars are not being used but I have no idea if this is public or privately funded.

  3. Wayne Lusvardi says:

    To Bill-San Jose:

    My article did not address profitability directly. I did reference that the observed physical life of wind farms is 15 years and that coincidentally the tax credits for wind farms is also 15 years. After the tax credits are used up it is typical to find that wind farms shut down – ergo, they are no longer profitable without subsidies.

    But should we be giving subsidies to “clean” energy that is not clean – that indirectly uses more fuel and generates more pollution than a conventional gas power plant? What the Dutch study I referenced indicates is that IF a wind turbine only lasts 15 years there is no environmental benefit – in fact there is damage from relatively more pollution. The claims of the environmental benefits of wind farms are predicated on a 30 year life for wind turbines (which is a leap of faith because I do not believe we even have a wind farm that ever operated for 30 years).

    Caltech is out with a pilot study indicating that if wind turbines are better laid out on the ground so as not to interfere with the flow of wind on each other that their output can be increased ten times. But this has only been demonstrated with vertical wind mills whose output is in the range of hundreds of watts instead of the giant horizontal windmills where the output is in the megawatt range of output. Zero sum game.

    Armed with this information will there be an eventual legal challenge to make government wind energy proponents and wind operators prove that wind turbines do not make gas-fired power plants use more energy and generate more pollution? Recently, the science behind claims that the Delta Smelt fish was in danger of extinction was found by a Federal judge to be based on bogus science. In 2009 emails were released from East Anglia University in Great Britain that showed global warming data was manipulated. Can existing environmental laws on the books be used against the unproven claims of renewable energy? We may find out soon.

  4. Jerry Morris says:

    So…..in other words….we were scammed AGAIN? It should be plane as day by now, that NO environmental whackos should be believed….ever again!

  5. Michael Goggin, AWEA says:

    As we’ve noted before, the fossil fuel industry and allied groups are engaged in a desperate misinformation campaign to muddy the waters about one of the indisputable benefits of wind energy: its proven record of greatly reducing fossil fuel use and harmful pollution. Each of these attacks has been roundly rebutted by government data and studies by independent grid operators conclusively showing that pollution and fossil fuel use decline significantly in lockstep as regions ramp up their use of wind energy. In fact, much of the data indicates that the emissions savings of wind energy are even larger than expected because wind energy tends to disproportionately displace dirtier and less flexible coal plants relative to less dirty and more flexible natural gas plants. We’ve also pointed out numerous critical flaws in each of these fossil fuel industry-funded attacks on wind energy. In the interests of space we won’t repost all of the data and citations here, but they can be found at the following links:
    http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2010/09/the-facts-about-wind-energy-and-emissions
    http://www.awea.org/newsroom/realstories/The-Facts-about-Wind-Energy-and-Emissions.cfm
    http://archive.awea.org/newsroom/pdf/04_05_2010_Colorado_emissions_response.pdf
    http://www.awea.org/blog/index.cfm?customel_dataPageID_1699=9289
    http://www.awea.org/blog/index.cfm?customel_dataPageID_1699=9958

    The latest incarnation of this misinformation campaign against wind energy comes from a Web posting by a Dutch anti-wind activist, C. le Pair. While we wouldn’t ordinarily expect non-peer-reviewed attacks on wind energy on an obscure Dutch anti-wind website to receive much attention, in this case major publications like The Atlantic and The Guardian have covered his claims. Fortunately The Atlantic and The Guardian articles were duly skeptical of the anti-wind activist’s claims and included quotes from professors and other experts pointing out many reasons why the anti-wind claims were false.
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/01/benefits-wind-power-questioned/47146/
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/jan/09/wind-turbines-increasing-carbon-emissions

    However, the quotes from those experts did not comprehensively address all of the flaws in le Pair’s work, so we will do so here:

    Power Grid Operations
    As others have pointed out, le Pair’s attack is based on a serious and fundamental misunderstanding of how the power grid operates. Le Pair assumes that changes in the output of each wind turbine must be compensated by corresponding changes in the output of a fossil-fired power plant.

    First of all, le Pair fails to understand that the output of all wind turbines connected to the power grid is combined, which greatly reduces the variability of their aggregate output. Dozens of studies have found that when hundreds or thousands of wind turbines spread over hundreds of miles are aggregated, changes in output at one wind turbine are almost always canceled out by changes in the output of the other wind turbines. (http://www.vtt.fi/inf/pdf/tiedotteet/2009/T2493.pdf) The short-term variability in wind output is the most greatly reduced, as it takes hours for a single weather event to affect a significant share of a wind fleet spread over hundreds of miles. This short-term variability is the most important as this is what grid operators must accommodate by using fast-acting, expensive, and inefficient reserve generation, and fortunately wind energy adds little to the need for these reserves. Longer-term (over an hour or more) variations are far more easily and efficiently accommodated by grid operators.

    Second, le Pair fails to understand that changes in aggregate wind output are combined with all other sources of variability on the power system, which cancels out many of the changes in wind output. Since the dawn of electricity more than a century ago, power grid operators have been kept busy 24/7/365 continually changing the output of power plants to accommodate changes in electricity demand and supply. Electricity demand changes drastically as people turn appliances on and off and as factories come on and offline. Small changes in the weather can drastically change the number of people running air conditioners or electric heaters. Many changes in electricity demand are unpredictable or imperfectly predictable, which make them harder for grid operators to accommodate. Because most of these changes in electricity use are random, much of the time electricity demand is decreasing when wind output is decreasing or vice versa, meaning that the changes in wind output are canceled out.

    Similar to the unexpected changes in electric demand, all conventional power plants experience unexpected outages on a fairly frequent basis due to mechanical or electrical failures. These outages occur instantaneously and without warning, requiring grid operators to maintain enough fast-acting backup reserve generation 24/7/365 to replace the largest power plant on the grid, which is often the 1000+ MW needed to replace a large coal or nuclear plant. As noted above, these reserves are far more costly and inefficient than the slower-acting reserves that modestly increase in need at high penetrations of wind energy.

    Le Pair also assumes that all changes in supply and demand must be accommodated by fossil fuel power plants, even though in many parts of the world hydroelectric plants provide the needed reserves without any emissions penalty at all. Le Pair’s rough and obsolete estimates for the emissions/efficiency penalty for operating a fossil fuel power plant at less than full load or cycling the plant are also considerably higher than real-world data indicates, as many fossil fuel plants can decrease their output by 1/3 or more without experiencing more than a trivial decline in efficiency. This is particularly true of modern fossil plants that are designed to operate very flexibly with minimal reductions in efficiency.

    Finally, Le Pair ignores the findings of other studies that the emissions savings of wind energy are even larger than expected because wind energy tends to disproportionately displace dirtier and less flexible coal plants relative to less dirty and more flexible natural gas plants.

    As a result of these flaws, le Pair’s estimates greatly overstate the challenge of integrating wind energy and any emissions penalty associated with integrating wind. The theoretical power system he envisions is completely different from how the actual power system operates. Consequently, his results and conclusions that lead him to attack wind are a pure fiction that bears no relationship to what happens on the real power system. As a result, it is not surprising that his conclusions are contradicted by a large body of government and independent grid operator data and peer-reviewed studies, referenced in the links at the beginning, showing that wind energy does result in the expected savings of fossil fuel use and emissions.

    As an added case study to illustrate the real-world emissions and fossil fuel use savings of wind energy, let’s look at Spain’s success with wind energy.The data for Spain shows a remarkable success story of wind and solar energy drastically cutting Spain’s fossil fuel use and emissions. Between 2005 and 2009, Spain’s CO2 emissions from coal and natural gas consumption fell from 150.5 million metric tons to 117.1 million metric tons, a decline of 22% over just four years. Electricity production from wind steadily grew from 20.1 billion kwh in 2005 to 34.8 billion kwh in 2009. Hydroelectric output also increased as a result of 2005 being a poor water year, going from 17.7 billion kwh in 2005 to 26.0 billion kwh in 2009. Total electricity generation in Spain was flat over this time period, with 272.1 billion kwh produced in 2005 and 275.1 billion kwh produced in 2009. So wind grew from providing 7.4% of the country’s electricity in 2005 to 12.6% in 2009, while hydroelectric increased from 6.5% to 9.5%. Solar also helped out by growing from almost zero output in 2005 to 5.8 billion kwh in 2009. Spain became a net exporter of electricity over that time period, going from exporting 1.3 billion kwh in 2005 to 8.1 billion kwh in 2009, so one can’t argue that an increased reliance on imports allowed Spain to keep its emissions low. If one wants to remove the impact variability in hydroelectric output may have on the results, one can use 2006 as the base year, since 2006 and 2009 had nearly identical hydroelectric output. With 2006 as the base year, wind output increased from 22.1 billion kwh to 34.8 billion kwh, growing from 7.9% of electricity generation to 12.6% of electricity generation. CO2 emissions fell from 144.6 million metric tons in 2006 to 117.1 million metric tons in 2009, a decline of 19%. All of the data is available here:
    http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=6&pid=29&aid=12

    Lifecycle emissions
    Le Pair claims that it takes 1.5 years for a wind turbine to produce enough energy to offset the energy that was used to build and install the turbine. The only cited basis for this claim is a very rough back-of-the-envelope estimate from a private email sent to le Pair by an acquaintance. Even worse, that estimate only roughly guesses at the energy needed for the steel and concrete, the two largest energy consuming components of a wind turbine, and then roughly doubles that number to account for other energy uses with no effort to precisely quantify those factors. Le Pair also assumes a 25% capacity factor for the wind turbine, even though typical wind turbines in the U.S. produce about 1/3 more energy than that. Correcting that discrepancy alone brings the energy payback time back to about one year.

    In contrast to the rough and unsubstantiated estimates in le Pair’s work, a number of peer-reviewed studies have thoroughly accounted for the energy inputs and outputs for wind turbines and all have found the energy payback period to be around 6 months. Here are a couple of the comprehensive peer-reviewed analyses, each finding an energy payback period of under one year, that le Pair should have referenced instead of relying on an unsubstantiated back-of-the-envelope calculation:
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/3m51630210q0q078/
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032109001403

    Le Pair also entirely ignores the fact that a significant amount of energy and carbon emissions are involved in constructing and operating all types of conventional power plants and providing them with fuel . Coal, gas, nuclear, and hydroelectric plants are all built out of massive quantities of energy-intensive materials like concrete and steel. In addition, significant amounts of energy are involved in mining and transporting coal, natural gas, and nuclear fuel.

    Of course, the most important factor is that after the brief energy payback period a wind turbine will continue providing zero emissions energy for decades, while a fossil plant will continue to consume fossil fuels and belch pollution for decades. Again, all peer-reviewed analyses have concluded that the lifecycle emissions of wind plants are at most a small fraction of those from conventional plants.

    Le Pair also makes the entirely unsubstantiated claim that wind plants have considerable onsite energy use. In fact, the onsite energy use of wind plants is minimal, considerably less than the onsite parasitic losses associated with pumping water at conventional steam plants, operating pollution control equipment at fossil plants, drying and crushing fuel at coal plants, etc.

    Despite the facts, the desperate misinformation campaign to muddy the waters about the benefits of wind energy continues. So far in this case it appears that the facts have prevailed, as the obscure, unsubstantiated, and deeply flawed website posting of a single Dutch anti-wind activist has been treated with the skepticism it deserves when directly contradicted by a large body of government and independent grid operator data and peer-reviewed studies showing that wind energy does result in the expected savings of fossil fuel use and emissions.

    Michael Goggin
    American Wind Energy Association

  6. Tauna Christensen says:

    Now why would the fossil fuel industry want to smear the wind industry??? Wind entangles fossil fuels. Furthermore, none of the various state renewable portfolio standards” laws, which require the purchase of a certain percentage of renewables led by wind, are causally indexed to independently measured reductions in greenhouse gases or fossil fuel use. Perhaps this is why so many multinational corporations suffused in fossil fuel are investing in wind technology, companies such as GE, FP&L, ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, Chevron, Duke Energy, Exelon, Weyerhaeuser, Siemens, and the redoubtable Goldman Sachs. Their executives know they won’t lose any fossil fuel marketshare to wind, and, at the same time, they can literally capitalize on wind in a number of ways–such as tax avoidance and, via renewable energy credits, saving income not spent on cleaning up their dirtiest burning generations.

    As I said, wind entangles fossil fuels — the reality is there is NO such thing as wind electricity by itself.

    When you add wind to the traditional list of generation sources:

    Coal
    Gas
    Nuclear
    Hydro

    you have to add it in one of four ways:

    Gas / wind / transmission
    Coal / wind / transmission
    Hydro / wind / transmission (in just the few states that have some finite hydro resources available)
    Wind / storage / transmission

    You can never operate wind by itself because wind’s intermittent output doesn’t match full-time demand. This is not a technology problem – it is a weather problem. No one can guarantee when the wind will blow or the speed or duration of it.

    Wind will never replace other forms of power. Wind doesn’t allow you to shut off any fossil plants — it actually locks us into fossil fuel use.

    BTW — I see talk of the “significant amount of energy and carbon emissions involved in constructing and operating all types of conventional power plants” — what about wind turbines??? They, too, also need significant amounts of rebar and concrete etc. etc. And let’s talk about Rare Earth minerals — wind turbines NEED Rare Earth Elements which are truly RARE — many use up 4000± pounds of Rare Earth Elements. And the processing of Rare Earth Elements involves dozens of steps, of caustic chemical baths or blast furnace separations. Each of these results in a waste stream of severely polluted air, water, and residue — and radioactive waste.

    http://www.vetiver.org/ICV4pdfs/BA09.pdf
    http://www.fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/rareearth.pdf; http://www.sdcleanwateralliance.org/RareEarthElements.html