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	Comments on: Legislators debate tax reform	</title>
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		By: Lee Goslin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Goslin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is understood that this discussion above was about ways to simplify and stabilize the predictability of the collection of taxes by the state government.  It as described was a good discussion with lots of good ideas forthcoming, except for that arrogant sloth Calderon who seemed to be dismissive of anything which did not maximize FOREVER government tax collection growth as a permanent entitlement of state government.

However as discussed above the real problem is government spending, especially the spending on excessive salaries, benefits, and pensions for state employees; and the problems created by their whoremasters, the state legislators who give the state employees the bucks in exchange for the bribes the legtislators receive in return (campaign donations from their corrupt union buddies).

GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is understood that this discussion above was about ways to simplify and stabilize the predictability of the collection of taxes by the state government.  It as described was a good discussion with lots of good ideas forthcoming, except for that arrogant sloth Calderon who seemed to be dismissive of anything which did not maximize FOREVER government tax collection growth as a permanent entitlement of state government.</p>
<p>However as discussed above the real problem is government spending, especially the spending on excessive salaries, benefits, and pensions for state employees; and the problems created by their whoremasters, the state legislators who give the state employees the bucks in exchange for the bribes the legtislators receive in return (campaign donations from their corrupt union buddies).</p>
<p>GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!!!</p>
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		By: EastBayLarry		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/09/03/8451/#comment-2211</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s not forget the enormous costs to the state and local governments incurred by out-of-balance benefits programs of public employees and retirees. Where ever the State income comes from, it needs to be spent more wisely in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the enormous costs to the state and local governments incurred by out-of-balance benefits programs of public employees and retirees. Where ever the State income comes from, it needs to be spent more wisely in the future.</p>
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		By: DavidfromLosGatos		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/09/03/8451/#comment-2210</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The bottom line is that government needs some type of revenue to operate.&quot;

Hard to argue with that.

But apparently our elected officials cannot agree on how much government should be operating, let alone how much &quot;we&quot; such government operation should cost, or how (and from whom) the &quot;needed revenue&quot; should be extracted under threat of imprisonment.

The trend for such a long time has been to inflict as much government operation as they possibly can on the populace, and to pay as much as possible for such government operation using revenue extracted from personal income taxes (mostly) from high income individuals, property taxes that are all over the map, a ridiculously high sales tax that only applies to goods, not services, and is only voluntarily paid in the form of use tax for goods bought over the internet from out of state sources.  And, of course, they borrow, borrow, borrow.

But after years of &quot;what me worry?&quot; the property tax base quits its meteoric rise, the high income folks left in CA don&#039;t make as much of said high income, and people are buying less stuff subject to sales taxes.

So - will government shrink or learn do provide as much of itself at a lower cost?  Or, will they try to extract great amounts of revenue from a shrunken economic pie and/or keep borrowing more and more?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bottom line is that government needs some type of revenue to operate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hard to argue with that.</p>
<p>But apparently our elected officials cannot agree on how much government should be operating, let alone how much &#8220;we&#8221; such government operation should cost, or how (and from whom) the &#8220;needed revenue&#8221; should be extracted under threat of imprisonment.</p>
<p>The trend for such a long time has been to inflict as much government operation as they possibly can on the populace, and to pay as much as possible for such government operation using revenue extracted from personal income taxes (mostly) from high income individuals, property taxes that are all over the map, a ridiculously high sales tax that only applies to goods, not services, and is only voluntarily paid in the form of use tax for goods bought over the internet from out of state sources.  And, of course, they borrow, borrow, borrow.</p>
<p>But after years of &#8220;what me worry?&#8221; the property tax base quits its meteoric rise, the high income folks left in CA don&#8217;t make as much of said high income, and people are buying less stuff subject to sales taxes.</p>
<p>So &#8211; will government shrink or learn do provide as much of itself at a lower cost?  Or, will they try to extract great amounts of revenue from a shrunken economic pie and/or keep borrowing more and more?</p>
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		By: PSmith		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/09/03/8451/#comment-2209</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t see one thing about CUTTING expenditures by the state.  NOTHING.  It is always another way to soak the taxpayer.  Quit paying for otters, and special interest issues.   Let them pay for it themselves and get them off of the taxpayers back.  Then we&#039;ll find a way to reform the tax.   California has been a wasteland for most of us.  We are California born and raised residents looking for another state to live in. Our adult children have left and said they will never come back.  They are dual income families and won&#039;t support California any longer.  Yes, this commission was about tax reform.  Excuse me. Tax reform can&#039;t be successful without spending reform.  PERIOD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see one thing about CUTTING expenditures by the state.  NOTHING.  It is always another way to soak the taxpayer.  Quit paying for otters, and special interest issues.   Let them pay for it themselves and get them off of the taxpayers back.  Then we&#8217;ll find a way to reform the tax.   California has been a wasteland for most of us.  We are California born and raised residents looking for another state to live in. Our adult children have left and said they will never come back.  They are dual income families and won&#8217;t support California any longer.  Yes, this commission was about tax reform.  Excuse me. Tax reform can&#8217;t be successful without spending reform.  PERIOD.</p>
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		By: David Weikel		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/09/03/8451/#comment-2208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Weikel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The bottom line is that government needs some type of revenue to operate.  Over the past few decades it appears government has been able to expand services, including corporate subsidies through borrowing. This artificially inflated the expectation of what government could realistically do with it&#039;s real funding like tax based funding.  Taxes should not be considered a burden to be eliminated, but an investment in government for the good of everyone.  Our main challenge is managing should be managing our investment, not eliminating it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that government needs some type of revenue to operate.  Over the past few decades it appears government has been able to expand services, including corporate subsidies through borrowing. This artificially inflated the expectation of what government could realistically do with it&#8217;s real funding like tax based funding.  Taxes should not be considered a burden to be eliminated, but an investment in government for the good of everyone.  Our main challenge is managing should be managing our investment, not eliminating it.</p>
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