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		By: Jamie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Katy --

Is it too late to draft a letter of support/opposition? I&#039;m never all that sure of what exactly the &quot;status&quot; of a bill means when you look at its history (say on leginfo).  Like it will say &quot;Do-pass&quot; and &quot;re-referred to such-and-such committee,&quot; be &quot;read&quot; so many times and continue to be read and amended, and give voting summary several times before it even goes to be chaptered.

Basically I have no idea what that all means, and when the appropriate time to draft a letter is.

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Katy &#8212;</p>
<p>Is it too late to draft a letter of support/opposition? I&#8217;m never all that sure of what exactly the &#8220;status&#8221; of a bill means when you look at its history (say on leginfo).  Like it will say &#8220;Do-pass&#8221; and &#8220;re-referred to such-and-such committee,&#8221; be &#8220;read&#8221; so many times and continue to be read and amended, and give voting summary several times before it even goes to be chaptered.</p>
<p>Basically I have no idea what that all means, and when the appropriate time to draft a letter is.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are right David - this is toothless prevention. But at least it&#039;s something.... which I can&#039;t believe I just said.
-Katy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right David &#8211; this is toothless prevention. But at least it&#8217;s something&#8230;. which I can&#8217;t believe I just said.<br />
-Katy</p>
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		By: DavidfromLosGatos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IMO, this language will do nothing to stop pension spiking:

&quot;The bill would require the boards of each public retirement system to establish accountability provisions that would include an ongoing audit process to ensure that a change in a members salary, compensation, or remuneration is not made principally for the purpose increasing retirement benefits.&quot;

Among other needed adjustments, such as raising the minimum age, the pension formula needs to be based on base salary amount, e.g., averaged over final three to five years, exclusive of any OT or accrued sick pay or whatnot.

There is no way to stop some forms of spiking, such as sweet heart promotions for the last year or two of employment.  As with the tax code, when they make new rules, people figure out new ways around them.

Also IMO, a six month prohibition against full time public employment after retirement is pointless.  They can still double dip &quot;part time&quot; (which I believe in CA means less than 32 hours a week) for the first six months (or maybe enjoy a vacation or whatever), then resume with the full time double dipping for several years.

The only remedy with any real teeth would be to require that any money paid by the state would be deducted dollar for dollar from any pensions paid during the same time period.  You want to &quot;retire&quot;?  Fine. Retire.

Keep up the good work with this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, this language will do nothing to stop pension spiking:</p>
<p>&#8220;The bill would require the boards of each public retirement system to establish accountability provisions that would include an ongoing audit process to ensure that a change in a members salary, compensation, or remuneration is not made principally for the purpose increasing retirement benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Among other needed adjustments, such as raising the minimum age, the pension formula needs to be based on base salary amount, e.g., averaged over final three to five years, exclusive of any OT or accrued sick pay or whatnot.</p>
<p>There is no way to stop some forms of spiking, such as sweet heart promotions for the last year or two of employment.  As with the tax code, when they make new rules, people figure out new ways around them.</p>
<p>Also IMO, a six month prohibition against full time public employment after retirement is pointless.  They can still double dip &#8220;part time&#8221; (which I believe in CA means less than 32 hours a week) for the first six months (or maybe enjoy a vacation or whatever), then resume with the full time double dipping for several years.</p>
<p>The only remedy with any real teeth would be to require that any money paid by the state would be deducted dollar for dollar from any pensions paid during the same time period.  You want to &#8220;retire&#8221;?  Fine. Retire.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work with this blog.</p>
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